Discovery Air to operate B737s and CRJ200s

Lagos-based start-up airline Discovery Air intends to launch commercial flight services with a fleet of B737-300s and CRJ-200s. The airline plans to serve several domestic and regional destinations from Lagos Airport, but no date has been given yet for the start of operations (likely to Abuja and Port Harcourt). The new airline is part of the First Deepwater Discovery group of companies, led by Babatunde Babalola.

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37 responses to “Discovery Air to operate B737s and CRJ200s”

  1. Eric says :

    Any Idea when Discovery Air and the other start ups will be starting? Heard about a lot of potential start ups last year but have all gone silent.

    • Aviation in Nigeria says :

      Discovery Air – unknown – no AOC, aircraft(?)
      Azman Air – July 2013 – no AOC, ex-VK B737s
      Hak Air – unknown – no AOC, four B734s stored at CGK
      JedAir – unknown – AOC, to lease Dash 8s – only charter operations?
      Regina Air – uncertain if this a real airline
      Air Taraba – aircraft operated by OAS Helicopters, but future uncertain due to the healt of the state governor

      Any others?

  2. Anonymous says :

    Discovery Airline is starting operation soon according to their web http://www.flydiscovery.com.ng/careers-2/

  3. Naijajet says :

    Heard Topbrass might start a regular Osubi- Lagos service soon..Please who knows why Ariks’ 5N-MJI is without engine and winglets in Abuja.

    • Skydog says :

      The engines were placed on 5N MJJ,MJI is due for c check and no slot for her until later this year. She is currently canibalized for parts..

      • LAF says :

        Yikes! Isn’t it a bit too early to be cannibalizing for parts?

      • Naijajet says :

        Was a pretty Ugly sight on the ramp with her other Sisters around….(excuse my Oxymoron)

      • LAF says :

        The Arik tech may not mind but maybe for image sake, management should arrange for some industrial screens to shield it from view till it’s fully dressed again.

        On an MRO note, given the situation on the ground, if Arik were to muscle up resources and go all out to do D-checks on its 737s at their Lagos base, what’s the minimum equipment list required and if they were manage to pull it off today. The first Ds should be due soon if their first delivery were in 2006.

        Leave out any regulatory and administrative hitches for now and assume they fly in any external tech and temporarily house them in their own facilities for the couple of weeks required for the job.

        Let’s sketch a number scenarios and see if there’s room for a more innovative approach and reduce the perception/reality/feeling of the domestics’ ‘hands being tied’.

        Engines, Airframe, Components, Avionics, Testing, Aerostructures, Interiors

        The rate at which news articles are often calling for MRO development, is almost taking on a professional level.

  4. Greg says :

    @ Air Taraba: No show, because the Governor’s recuperating from the crash? Reminds one how far we have to go

  5. Anonymous says :

    There are no D checks anymore, also the cost of equipment and manpower is far too much for Arik. Not sure what is meant by no slot for aircraft as plenty of NCAA approved MRO’s with available slots, more likely if engines robbed is that they have engine shop visits and no spare engines to mange programme or anyone wanting to lease engines. This means MJI, MJK and MJJ engines all due at same time ? as these were ex Aloha aircraft and 7 years old when delivered to Arik. Few million dollars of engine shop visits, wonder when the engines due on those trents fitted to A340’s.

  6. Anonymous says :

    that is a sad looking sight, will that ever fly again ?

  7. Eric says :

    And it has began. Cannibalizing for parts already? Its too early for that. Not a pretty sight at all

  8. Anonymous says :

    whatever happened to those 2 B737CL, MJA/MJB, they never came back from checks in UK ?

  9. Anonymous says :

    With this situation, what operational adjustments did they make to minimize the effect on their network?

  10. Greg says :

    @ Alaba: Okada style demise….what scares me is a faint belief that the current big jet trunk model in this country is faulty. It’s manifestation: costs outweigh revenues at most carriers, save at Dana perhaps, where 300K dollar MD 83s and the mountains of cash the owner has, can see him through (why, the ravaged 737 in Abuja can buy the entire Dana ops). Perhaps the other carriers can borrow a lesson from Dana. The Dana guys are running their op like a business. If the others are, Dana’s doing a better job.

    • Alaba says :

      Greg

      Are you infering that Dana revenues are higher than Ariks? It will be great to look at their costs per aircraft/ staff per aircraft etc.

  11. Justina Alex says :

    I hope discovery air will soon start to recruit for their cabin crews cos i’m interested.

  12. Greg says :

    @ Justina Alex: Miss, this is not to discourage you, but most aviation folks I’ve spoken with, think Discovery won’t work out, and that’s putting it mildly. For instance, the number of places they claim they’ll serve from the onset is wildly unfeasible. Their fleet mix, for a newcomer, is also considered a joke. Try some other airline. It will be worth your while

    • Anonymous says :

      Second that!! Looking for someone to give me good odds on them making it into the air so I can make some money :)

  13. Alaba says :

    A lot of Nigerian based flying jobs being advertised in Europe at the moment. GIVs, G550s, Falcons, Q400s and HS left and right seats.

  14. Greg says :

    Nigerian jobs being advertized in Europe. And we have Nigerian who can do such work right away, or maybe with some help/encouragement. Makes me think some people in public places should be hung on electric poles

    • Anonymous says :

      Lots of young unemployed pilots fresh out of school out there on the outside, looking in and wondering when their turn will come.

  15. Greg says :

    Alaba, I’m saying, financing 300K airplanes (MDs) is much cheaper than financing NG737s (Arik, and it is said, Overland and Medview soon). You certainly replenish the wallet you raised acquisition funds from faster, with 300K than several mill dollars (I suppose that is amortization?). Again, Dana obviously runs a leaner op than Arik; Medview should, too. I’d bet Dana’s seat mile costs are lower than Arik’s, etc. All told, given the rudimentary elements you find in our market, low aircraft acquisition will figure far more than it will in, say, Europe

    • LAF says :

      With actual and projected general economic growth set to continue, how will
      this affect the aircraft selection and financing landscape? And when would the crossover point be reached toward the acquisition of equipment with relatively lower cycles and potentially higher economic lives at the start of their Nigerian careers than the present trends. Is this decade too ambitious?

      In order words, when industry will catch up or improve to the point where(a) the financial barriers to accessing lower cycled frames are lower or (b) the operators have the financial capability to surmount these barriers comfortably and a third scenario is both (a) and (b) occuring simultaneously, in light of continued economic growth trends?

  16. Greg says :

    LAF, I don’t see us overcoming the two scenarios above, for the simple reason that our stock of wealth isn’t high enough yet. What’s more, the wealth (econ growth) we are generating is badly skewed in favour of the top fractions of the populace. Which explains the absurd proportion of bizjets in our skies.

    In Malaysia, econ performance, and more crucially, management, is light years ahead ours’, that’s why Air Asia can order, was it 200 A320s at a go (but the other day, Malaysia came to learn palm oil business in Edo State (bet you’re sick of that line now) ).

    Below our level are the Malis and Nigers of this world, who, it seems, couldn’t ever play the game. And at the other end, the top, of course are the US and Europe.

    So, it all boils down to how we manage our wealth. If we do a good job, we’ll get new or near new airframes soon enough, but if we continue the shenanigans we love so much now, it will continue be 20 yr old 734s, seems.

    Again, the wealth creation imperative turns up in an interesting parameter: how expensive a one hour trip is, in our industry. In 2010 or 11, I saw somewhere on the ‘net, that it was significantly cheaper in India. Continuing, that country’s economic station is obviously better than ours’.

    For an anecdote, let’s suppose Fed Govt pulls off the new aircraft for local carriers deal with Embraer; how will their arrival impact fares or accessibility of air travel to GROWING numbers of our people? By very little, I’ll bet. What I mean is, fares will remain disproportionately high. And that’s because we’re lousy managers of the national heritage.

  17. Greg says :

    Alaba, on Arik 737 cannibalised/ local airline costs/their business model, I think we need not go further than the conclusion of the US embassy document on the state of the industry, which appeared on the ‘net two yrs back: Nigerian airlines labour under high interest rates, huge jet fuel costs, and low, uneconomic ticket prices.
    Unfortunately, I didn’t see the end of the report, but the tone I could discern was that they thought the industry as it stood, was untenable (with the obvious implications for safety)

  18. Dorothy Shaahu says :

    I will care to have your company office numbers if possible

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